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Born on June 18th 1969 as the first child in an average normal family, except for the illiterate, abusive father, and the dutiful mother, sacrificing her own life for her children, including that lousy excuse for a husband, all because she made the mistake of marrying him, and because she strongly believes in living with the consequences of one's actions, Irma spent the first 17 years of her life in the small town of Bergen op Zoom in the Netherlands.

Being able to read at age 3, she later on became an avid reader, and having read just about everything the local library had to offer at age 10, she started nagging her mother to bring her to the main library at the other side of town every few days.

She never liked being a girl, and could even be seen praying at night for God to turn her into a boy overnight, always being disappointed if such obviously wasn't the case the next morning. She drove the Catholic nuns at kindergarten crazy by refusing to play with dolls, and by disappearing from the school yard, driving off on a go-cart, of course only to be noticed a couple of blocks down the road by thoughtful adults, bringing her back to that same school yard, where the nuns made sure she knew she was a naughty child. Nevertheless she must have liked going there, because when she was suffering from Pfeiffer's disease, she was told she wouldn't be allowed to go to school the next day, if she didn't sleep in the afternoon, and this for almost an entire year.

Pfeiffer's disease plagued her once more, in secondary school, even though one is supposed to only be able to get it once, where she almost had to retake her 4th year, having missed a couple of months. She studied Latin and Greek, took the obligatory field trip to Italy, smoked marijuana in the pupil's basement, tried to fit in but failed miserably, called just about every teacher by first name, except for the few remaining priests and elderly teachers, played the recorder, even though she would have largely preferred the piano, tried ballet, gymnastics, football, karate, tennis and a couple of other sports, but not ice hockey because that really wasn't considered a sport for girls, played theatre, felt awkward about her blossoming femininity, underwent a breast reduction because her G-cup sized bosom caused a constant backache, lived through a rather dramatic divorce (her parents' divorce that is) of which she insisted to spare you the details, and took off abroad, a whole 40 kilometres from home mind you, to enter university.

Because it surely would be dangerous, a young girl alone in a big bad city, she spent the first year in Antwerp with yet other nuns, who rented rooms to lady students. Because it was such a hassle asking for a key every time she would return to the nunnery after 8 p.m., she duplicated the key, which never was discovered, even though the nuns came close at more than one occasion, one of those being that night when the police rang the bell at about 1 a.m., waking up the entire building, because they wanted to confirm it was her who had called about the smell of gas, and a smell of gas there was by the way, even though the Jewish man her friend and she asked for confirmation, looked as if he was about to strangle them, while all they did was save him and all the other inhabitants of that street from a possible explosion.

She studied economics, as a second choice, as her heart went out to literature, but some thought a girl doesn't need an education anyway, being an inferior creature, and others were afraid an education in literature would only prepare her for a life on the dole. After a couple of years however, she decided she really wouldn't like to pursue a career in the economic field, and quit, exchanging economics for journalism, information and communication, graduating cum laude and getting her first Bachelor's degree, specialising in intercultural communication. After that she considered her knowledge of sociology and anthropology to be inferior, went back to university, and got a Master's degree, graduating cum laude again, after having written a thesis on female genital mutilation, or, using a term with less negative connotations, female circumcision.

All this time she had been working at the same time, starting out as a babysitter for two cute but spoilt Japanese kids, whose father worked in the diamond trade, first as an employee, but later on starting his own company, in which she then did administrative work as well as sorting diamonds, and this for several years. After various temp jobs, she worked at the tourist office of the city of Antwerp for about a year, during Antoon Van Dijck's Year in 1999 (Anthony van Dyck, the painter). One of the temp jobs she did afterwards brought her to a company that developed software, where she was active in helpdesk support, consulting and services support and marketing support. Unfortunately there was a worldwide reorganisation and she found herself, like so many others, unemployed. She was fired the American way, being told one afternoon, after lunch, seeing her e-mail and network access closed down immediately, and being told she didn't have to come back the next day. Good thing she lived at walking distance from the office, and she didn't have a company car, or she would have had to arrange for a taxi in order to get home. Not the fact she was fired but the way in which she was, came as quite a shock, all the more because just one week before that particular day, she had a job evaluation conversation, where she was promised a raise and an interesting career plan, with more emphasis on tech aspects of her work.

As she was unable to find a satisfactory job, and didn't like living on unemployment benefits, she took an intensive course in network administration and basic web development and scripting during 10 months, only to find out, she still wasn't able to find a job, having to compete with young guys straight out of college or university, or system administrators with years and years of experience, even though she was invited for job interviews many a time, and didn't limit herself to finding a job in ICT. The excuses she heard varied from being too old for the labour market, not fitting the all male team, being overqualified, not having enough work experience in that particular field, surely not being able to speak French, being Dutch and all, and being too much of a generalist.

After more temporary and various jobs, participating in an exam for communications expert for a position at the city of Antwerp, she made it through several rounds but got a phone call one morning she didn't make it through the final round. That same afternoon however she got another phone call, asking her whether she would be interested in working for the city of Antwerp in another position, at the special unit Sham Marriages and Forced Marriages, where she now most of the time is interviewing couples wanting to get married, while at least one of them is not having the Belgian nationality or a permanent resident permit, in order to find out whether they want to get married for other reasons than to obtain such a permit. She is also trying to help victims of sham marriages, as well as victims of forced marriages, or people being afraid of being forced to marry.

In her spare time, she likes of course being online, being a member of numerous communities and luring people into following her to those communities, loving anything beta, defining herself as an e-schizophrenic, being an expert in dilly-dallying, being addicted to silly quizzes that are like psychology for the lazy, as well as information and news, being a master in starting new blogs that afterwards don't get enough of her attention, using the nom de plume Morgaine LeFaye, and occasionally publishing poetry and short stories. Offline she still likes reading, writing, going to the theatre, the opera, and a concert once in a while, buying shoes, having long conversations, either over the phone or face to face, and, since she moved from an apartment to a house, gardening, or so she thinks, as due to various reasons, she didn't have the occasion to spend hours gardening just yet.

She lives together with a redheaded Dutchman, who online goes by the unpronounceable name wchulseiee, and whom she met online, about 7 years ago. He was crazy enough to relocate to Antwerp, and is admirable for putting up with her complex and difficult personality. She defines herself as bisexual and polyamorous, with an interest in various fetishes and kinks, emphasising this doesn't mean she is a nymphomaniac, on the contrary, she has known several periods of being asexual.

She spends a lot of time thinking about relationships in general and hers in particular (with family, especially her mother, friends, partner and potential other partners/lovers, ...), the concept of polyamory and the consequences, living together or living alone, bdsm, fetishes, new encounters, the impression you made on her, work, a career change, poetry, the short stories she should write down, handwritten letters, the smell of memories, identity, which camera to buy, her qualities and character flaws, insomnia, how she ever is going to keep her mind quiet once in a while, her immediate future, synchronicity, which language to learn next, both her online and offline friends, her need to relate to people, her being distant and very not physical when feeling troubled and unhappy, the whimsicalities of life, how to break out of vicious circles, catch-22 situations, inconsistencies, how she is an aunt since the beginning of September, children, why there are days she craves attention, how Google is becoming the new Microsoft, and anything that catches her attention as she is rather curious by nature.

She still has a lot to learn in life, for instance how to sleep, how to find inner balance, how to accept herself for who she is, whomever that may be, as she still is trying to figure that out, how to worry less and enjoy more, how to be more optimistic and self secure, how to be more confident writing in English, as she still is feeling inferior for not having an expert knowledge of vocabulary and grammar, which prevents her from expressing nuances, even though she is being assured by several people there's nothing wrong with her English language skills and there aren't that many people that are polyglot.

Her latest addiction is Newsvine, which she loves and adores, all the while still hoping one day it will be less US (of A) centred, and more importantly, multilingual so she can be a proud ambassadress of Newsvine for the Dutch speaking population on earth.

Phew. Could you read that in one single breath?

(also try my 'Bio')

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{"commentId":165146,"authorDomain":"aine"}

Well done!
And happy birthday (on the 18th).

:)

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  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:54 PM EDT
{"commentId":165186,"authorDomain":"irma"}

Thank you :-)

Forgot to mention birthdays, well, mine mostly, make me feel slightly depressed. *grin*

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  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:44 PM EDT
{"commentId":165189,"authorDomain":"aine"}

I know this probably won't cheer you up... but it might make you smile.

:)

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  • 6 votes
#1.2 - Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:53 PM EDT
{"commentId":165190,"authorDomain":"irma"}

It did. He was wearing something entirely different a couple of nights ago though.

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  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:55 PM EDT
{"commentId":431693,"authorDomain":"johblogs"}

It cheered me up Aine:-)

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#1.4 - Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:14 PM EST
{"commentId":431700,"authorDomain":"aine"}

Good, my work for the day is done. :)

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  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:19 PM EST
{"commentId":431705,"authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}

Thanks Irma. You are definitely NOT a simple woman. I enjoyed this article immensely.

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  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:21 PM EST
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{"commentId":165177,"authorDomain":"keld"}

Wow! Not just the girl next door ;-)

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  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:39 PM EDT
{"commentId":165184,"authorDomain":"irma"}

I am to my neighbours though :-)

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  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:42 PM EDT
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{"commentId":165206,"authorDomain":"iwilliam"}

It's great to learn a little bit more. Thankyou Irma , you are very interesting person and good friend.

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Reply#3 - Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:26 PM EDT
{"commentId":165771,"authorDomain":"irma"}

And so are you, my thoughtful and charming Will :-)

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#3.1 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:40 PM EDT
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{"commentId":165601,"authorDomain":"hallo"}
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{"commentId":165760,"authorDomain":"writelife"}

No, that took several breaths. I also think about polyamory, often in the context of a temporal continuum. That sounds more complex than I mean. But relationships evolve over time so, unlike what we may see in something like a movie, it is not a warm flush that lasts forever. That may be the beginning, but it changes. (And that is only speaking of the romantic kind of relationship - there are many others, like filial, sibling, etc..) So in terms of polyamory ... there may be several, but they may be different in kind or, if the same kind, they may be at different points in their evolution. And that's partly why I think something like polyamory can occur.

And I don't know what that adds up to ... but I think about it! :-)

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Reply#5 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:35 PM EDT
{"commentId":165788,"authorDomain":"irma"}

To me it's more natural than monogamy, even though not widely socially accepted. It's also way more honest than adultery, if you ask me. Of course, the truth isn't always a pretty sight, and many prefer to do the ostrich thing. It's not easy, if only because of jealousy, but jealousy is a figurative emotion, meaning it's merely an expression of other emotions, such as insecurity. In the long run, it's more healthy to work through those underlying emotions. But your mileage may vary of course.

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#5.1 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:54 PM EDT
{"commentId":165846,"authorDomain":"hallo"}
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{"commentId":165935,"authorDomain":"irma"}

Also, there is no limit on love, it's not that because I love two, each of them only gets half. Love doesn't work that way. Of course, I admit, time is limited, but this isn't necessarily an issue, not if one values quality over quantity anyway.

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  • 4 votes
#5.3 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:41 PM EDT
{"commentId":165991,"authorDomain":"gregh"}

A humble submission not meant as a proscription for all:

I love being a dad so much that we started our second one at age 40! They take so much time and effort that at the end of the day you fall into bed in utter exhaustion.

To provide a consistent presence in their lives, monogamy is the best thing going, even if the fireworks fade over time.

Hey, thanks for being so honest. Too bad your in loco parenitis had to be clergy. They set such impossible standards. There's much wisdom in your experience. Thanks for sharing.

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#5.4 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:45 PM EDT
{"commentId":166136,"authorDomain":"irma"}

Greg,

your enthusiasm is heartwarming. It is a huge responsibility and it can be very rewarding and an enormous joy to guide a child into adolescence, help him or her to become him- or herself.

I don't necessarily agree that monogamy is the only way to provide a child with a consistent presence but if that's what works best for you, and if that's what makes you happy, then who am I to disagree.

I don't think polyamory is better, nor worse, than monogamy. It's a disposition, polyamory certainly isn't for everyone. And neither is monogamy. At least, that's my humble opinion.

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#5.5 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:58 PM EDT
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{"commentId":165833,"authorDomain":"ISPY"}

HAPPY BIRTHDAY IRMA Next time I visit my friends in LIER I will drop you a line :)

HIP HIP

HUZZAH HUZZAH HUZZAH !

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  • 2 votes
Reply#6 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:29 PM EDT
{"commentId":165944,"authorDomain":"irma"}

Lier is only about 20 minutes away, so in that case, you might just as well pay a little visit to Antwerp :-)

Quite a lovely place, Lier, by the way. There is of course the Zimmer Tower, but besides that attraction, there are several nice places, and of course plenty of terraces.

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  • 2 votes
#6.1 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:47 PM EDT
{"commentId":166676,"authorDomain":"ISPY"}

Well I live in Sydney Australia. So its not far from Lier for me. :)

You forgot to metion Icecream.

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#6.2 - Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:03 AM EDT
{"commentId":181465,"authorDomain":"irma"}

Mmmm ... ice cream !

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  • 4 votes
#6.3 - Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:34 PM EDT
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{"commentId":165995,"authorDomain":"w8in"}

Wow...that was a whole story. Irma is the reason I have neglected accounts at several social network sites ;-)

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Reply#7 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:46 PM EDT
{"commentId":165998,"authorDomain":"irma"}

Well, all is forgiven as long as you don't neglect this one *grin* Oh yes, this isn't a social netwxork site, but a news site ... Shouldn't be too difficult then, should it?

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#7.1 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:49 PM EDT
{"commentId":166312,"authorDomain":"w8in"}

No, I know I'll stick around here.

I feel at home at Newsvine. I love news, conversation and a not too juvenile environment. This place is home.

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#7.2 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:13 PM EDT
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{"commentId":166039,"authorDomain":"charlie-b"}

You and my wife have the same birthday, year and all.
Have a happy!!

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Reply#8 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:19 PM EDT
{"commentId":166106,"authorDomain":"irma"}

And a happy one for you wife as well :-)

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#8.1 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:36 PM EDT
{"commentId":166110,"authorDomain":"irma"}

Aargh ... never mind that spelling error ...

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#8.2 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:39 PM EDT
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{"commentId":166060,"authorDomain":"farmer"}

I can't say I agree but Happy Birthday!

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Reply#9 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:37 PM EDT
{"commentId":166109,"authorDomain":"irma"}

I don't know what you disagree with, but thanks for the birthday wishes.

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  • 3 votes
#9.1 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:38 PM EDT
{"commentId":166166,"authorDomain":"farmer"}

I didn't want you to know what I disagreed with, if I had, I would have told you. I loved your article and will watch for more.

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#9.2 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:46 PM EDT
{"commentId":166574,"authorDomain":"ISPY"}

:)

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#9.3 - Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:05 AM EDT
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{"commentId":166186,"authorDomain":"silentium"}

*nods sagely*

Thought so.

I used to do that praying to turn into a boy thing too, when I was little. I didn't imagine that it'd actually come true one day though... heheh!

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Reply#10 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:10 PM EDT
{"commentId":166192,"authorDomain":"irma"}

The miracles of science :-)

I've come to terms with the fact I find myself in a female body, and a voluptuous one for that matter (for those of you that now envision Jerry Springer type voluptuous women, you're wrong), with lots of male hormones and many what would be considered male character traits. In my wicked moments I can still be a manipulative little @!$%# though *grin*

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#10.1 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:18 PM EDT
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{"commentId":166289,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

Thank you.
That was a pleasure to read.
Regarding the nuns, I offer you this as a token of my friendship.
http://www.antigravitytheatre.com/travel/myfirstnun.html

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Reply#11 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:42 PM EDT
{"commentId":166619,"authorDomain":"irma"}

That certainly made me smile :-)

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  • 3 votes
#11.1 - Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:09 AM EDT
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{"commentId":166438,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

It takes quite a lot of courage to be so open and honest. My compliments on acquiring wisdom and strength along a challenging path that may have turned a less evolved soul to become reluctant to embrace life and share freely. Thank you for the inspiring honesty. Have a wonderful birthday and 364 happy unbirthdays as well!!!

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Reply#12 - Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:16 AM EDT
{"commentId":166630,"authorDomain":"irma"}

As for honesty, it's actually quite liberating. Personally I don't equal being honest with being courageous, but I admit it is not always appreciated. I don't pretend being completely and utterly honest 100% of the time either, I'm only human after all *grin*

Didn't I mention I am profoundly pessimistic by nature? I'm not sure whether I would say I embrace life. Often it's more like I'm stuck with the @!$%# and determined to give her a good slapping :-)

Anyway, I'm glad to read you got something out this short bio of mine, and I thank you for your wishes !

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  • 5 votes
Reply#13 - Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:23 AM EDT
{"commentId":167014,"authorDomain":"bunty"}

Happy Birthday here as well irmy dear!

Oh, and Isolde sends this ;)

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Reply#14 - Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:04 PM EDT
{"commentId":167019,"authorDomain":"bunty"}

umm can you not post links here?

Should be

www. shecards .net/greetings/upcardme.php?step=1&cat=Friends_and_General&lang=&pic_id=kt4b12b30cd6

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    Reply#15 - Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:06 PM EDT
    {"commentId":167064,"authorDomain":"aine"}

    Dearest Bunty,

    You'll be able to post links as soon as you add enough content (comments, seeds, articles...) and make your way out of newbieville. ;)

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    #15.1 - Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:40 PM EDT
    {"commentId":167260,"authorDomain":"bunty"}

    ah thought it might be that, started seeding some stuff anyway... :D

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    #15.2 - Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:07 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":167492,"authorDomain":"arabier"}

    I share your last hopes ;)

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    Reply#16 - Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:42 PM EDT
    {"commentId":167860,"authorDomain":"irma"}

    About Newsvine being multilingual?

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    #16.1 - Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:59 AM EDT
    {"commentId":168130,"authorDomain":"writelife"}

    Multilingual would be best though I think it will present some technical challenges. Assuming Newsvine keeps growing and gets increasingly global, a polyglot quality to the site could become a problem if their aren't some options. To me, the ideal situation would be one where a person could personalize the site to display all languages, or the several or one he or she is fluent in. In other words, filter out those they are unfamiliar with. I've seen some places, like Orkut, where many languages are available. Unfortunately, there are sometimes so many posts in languages I'm unfamiliar with I find it difficult scrolling through to find those I can understand.

    I don't know how difficult a system like this would be to develop and implement. But it strikes me that from a practical viewpoint something like this would need to be in place. The risk, I suppose, is that it could possibly develop in a way that is somewhat isolationist where people interacting in different languages never interact with those using other languages.

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    #16.2 - Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:43 AM EDT
    {"commentId":168216,"authorDomain":"gregh"}

    Someday automatic translators will be good enough so posts from other languages could be shown in your chosen language.

    I don't know if this is science fiction or a feature request, but I think it would be awfully cool to share ideas with people in every part of the planet.

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    #16.3 - Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:36 PM EDT
    {"commentId":168390,"authorDomain":"writelife"}

    Automatic translators may get there one day but I'd still worry about some of the nuances of language. Certain words and phrases, translated literally, may muddle the writer's meaning.

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    #16.4 - Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:44 PM EDT
    {"commentId":168441,"authorDomain":"irma"}

    Writelife,

    I'm sure there are many, and not just technical, challenges. I also agree there's a risk people would only communicate with people speaking their mother tongue but that risk is not unique to Newsvine. Right now a person that doesn't master English, is excluded. And people that understand and are able to read English, but aren't mastering the language in such a way that they can communicate their opinions accurately, might seed articles in English, but never comment, nor write an article, even though what they have to say might be interesting. I know I don't write as many articles as I could, because I feel insecure about my language skills.

    Perhaps there's a role here for intermediates. People speaking several languages could translate key articles from one language to another, and make this article available to a larger audience. I've seen this done in magazines, so why not on Newsvine as well?

    Another thing that isn't original but perhaps useful is to have key articles in a simplified form of a certain language, aimed at beginners in learning that language. Of course not to simplify complicated matters, but to give people learning a language an opportunity to read, and preferably also discuss, articles of interest. If properly done, these articles could even be used in courses such as 'English as a second language' (which in Dutch would be 'Nederlands voor anderstaligen').

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    #16.5 - Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:26 PM EDT
    {"commentId":168450,"authorDomain":"irma"}

    I agree with Writelife that automatic translators would have a very hard time with cultural differences, styles of communication, connotations, and the like. For some expressions there just is no exact translation possible.

    By the way, it always amuses (and frustrates) me, that I might exactly know what is meant by a certain word or expression in a language that isn't my mother tongue, and not able to come up with it in my very own language. It's like at such times all those languages are tossed in a bag and mixed into one sort of meta-language in my brain, all considered to be the same language, and hence not in need of a translation. Mmm ... does that make any sense?

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    #16.6 - Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:34 PM EDT
    {"commentId":171212,"authorDomain":"arabier"}

    Irma,

    Yep, about Newsvine being multilingual.
    I would love to use/read Newsvine in Dutch, Hebrew and/or Arabic.
    It's always nice to use a site in your mother-tongue(s)

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    #16.7 - Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:24 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":167818,"authorDomain":"WriterX"}

    WOW! Irma is a VERY interesting person :)

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    Reply#17 - Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:20 AM EDT
    {"commentId":167876,"authorDomain":"irma"}

    Such as a disaster is an interesting thing for those leisure travelers that want a little extra, and consider disaster tourism to be an opportunity? *innocent looking* ;-p

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    #17.1 - Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:56 AM EDT
    {"commentId":168241,"authorDomain":"WriterX"}

    Hahaha. Or, like being at a soccer game that turns into a riot outside the coliseum. Seeing the opportunity to "help" the looters "clean up" the stores. ;)

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    #17.2 - Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:00 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":168225,"authorDomain":"hallo"}
    Daniel A. HalloDeleted
    {"commentId":168585,"authorDomain":"irma"}

    whulseiee, who I can't seem to lure into joining Newsvine, just informed me that this article reads like it was written by an adhd-chick on speed. Now where would he get that impression?

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    Reply#19 - Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:17 PM EDT
    {"commentId":168611,"authorDomain":"aine"}

    *smirk*
    Gee, I wonder...

    :D

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    #19.1 - Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:40 PM EDT
    {"commentId":168633,"authorDomain":"irma"}

    And that while at the moment I need to do everything in slow motion to keep that vertigo from ruthlessly attacking me *grin*

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    #19.2 - Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:54 PM EDT
    {"commentId":168667,"authorDomain":"hallo"}
    Daniel A. HalloDeleted
    {"commentId":169036,"authorDomain":"greta"}

    well, this is the first article of yours i've run across, but so far i enjoy your writing style and i definitely plan to pay more attention to your column in the future! i echo pamela drew's sentiments about how open and honest you are - i don't have the guts to do it, even hiding behind my screen name (and mask, of course!).

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    #19.4 - Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:04 PM EDT
    {"commentId":180831,"authorDomain":"rutty"}

    Happy birthday for last week Irma - you are exactly 16 days younger than me you lucky sod ;)

    I'd noticed your arrival here - it's good to see a familiar face and that you're enjoying Newsvine, though you have some way to catch up Aine with her article producitivity levels.

    I'd subscribed to your blog feeds ages ago and noticed that they'd gone quiet. It's great to see you here and I'll look forward to many great articles from you. Newsvine can only benefit from someone with such great writing skills and intellect!

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    #19.5 - Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:28 AM EDT
    {"commentId":286707,"authorDomain":"hemphill"}

    Whats he got against chicks with ADHD?

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      #19.6 - Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:33 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":180847,"authorDomain":"irma"}

      Thank you Rutty for your belated wishes. Let me already balance you being late by wishing you a happy birthday as well.

      As far as articles are concerned, Áine and I aren't that far apart. However, her seeding productivity levels are only rivaled by Claus. I'm not trying to compete though.

      This is I think the one and only community she invited me to. About time, seen the oodles of communities I lured her into joining *grin*

      I doubt I will be writing many original articles, unless I manage to brush up my confidence skills. Besides, I don't want to dedicate all my time online to Newsvine, but prefer to keep on Stumbling, Multiplying etc. as well.

      I admit I've been neglecting my blog, as I've already mentioned in this introductory article. Ever so often I ponder whether it wouldn't be better to leave all these communities and focus on my blog instead. Instead I sign up for yet another community, install yet another blogging application, fiddle with code, try and get the swing of TYPO3, and spend a lot of time sending e-mails and using several instant messengers. Call me scattered, and I'll agree.

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      Reply#20 - Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:44 AM EDT
      {"commentId":181418,"authorDomain":"ISPY"}

      And I thought there was a seed war going on. :)

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      #20.1 - Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:07 PM EDT
      {"commentId":181463,"authorDomain":"irma"}

      Perhaps there is I SPY, but I'm not participating :-)

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      #20.2 - Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:33 PM EDT
      {"commentId":181763,"authorDomain":"aine"}

      Seed war? Nah... in fact, I was sort of "forced" to slow down the last two weeks by out of town guests who kept me busy offline.

      BTW, Red Wolf is up there in seed numbers, as well.

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      #20.3 - Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:27 PM EDT
      {"commentId":181804,"authorDomain":"hallo"}
      Daniel A. HalloDeleted
      {"commentId":181824,"authorDomain":"irma"}
      Is this the biblical use of the word "SEED"? Because I sure would like to get to Know Irma better.
      Hey I can have fantasies can't I?

      You know damn well I don't do the biblical thing Daniel, being the agnostic I am. But fantasies are no taboo in my book, so go ahead :-)

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      #20.5 - Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:04 PM EDT
      {"commentId":182404,"authorDomain":"ISPY"}

      The Bible and all that begating Chritian Porn :)

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        #20.6 - Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:22 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":180860,"authorDomain":"aine"}
        This is I think the one and only community she invited me to. About time, seen the oodles of communities I lured her into joining *grin*

        That's because you always get to them first, ya wench! ;)

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        • 6 votes
        Reply#21 - Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:48 AM EDT
        {"commentId":260339,"authorDomain":"nigeriawhatisnew"}

        WOW is all I am left with. Yes, you are beauty. (sorry, I only know a few words).

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        Reply#22 - Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:38 AM EDT
        {"commentId":431163,"authorDomain":"indelible"}

        Shazam!

        If I could write a fiction-piece on the most interesting female imaginable, it would be pretty close to your description of yourself above.

        Great writing style too. I just joined this Newsvine community, but I'm sure your column will be a regular visit. I still can't believe English isn't your first language, impeccable spelling and near-perfect grammar.

        Congratulations.

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        Reply#23 - Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:55 AM EST
        {"commentId":431318,"authorDomain":"irma"}

        I hardly write, I'm mostly a seeder (just you wait until Newsvine will be available in Dutch, hehe) and the amount of seeding has dropped significantly lately. Guess it's because these days I can mostly be found elsewhere and I'm talking a lot behind the screens.

        I do welcome you to Newsvine and I'm looking forward to reading what this hyper you will come up with :-)

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        • 2 votes
        #23.1 - Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:43 AM EST
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        {"commentId":431613,"authorDomain":"Nycam"}

        Irma, you have (apparently) had a wonderful path to this point in your life, and I wish for you a magical journey of more growth, experiences and writing. It was a pleasure to learn more about you in such a pleasant venue. Your colors are now in a small way, part of my life for having been so influenced. ; )

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        • 3 votes
        Reply#24 - Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:09 PM EST
        {"commentId":432635,"authorDomain":"allpurpose"}

        I feel like I know you. Thanks for letting me in your world

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        Reply#25 - Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:38 PM EST
        {"commentId":433081,"authorDomain":"warners"}

        Thank you Irma for the enlightening memoir. Also Happy Birthday to you. I really enjoyed reading about you and your journey through life to now. I hope to read more of you in the future.

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        Reply#26 - Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:33 PM EST
        {"commentId":433495,"authorDomain":"irma"}

        I write. I write in notebooks, I write in Dutch, I write poetry on the refrigerator. Probably won't write really much on Newsvine though. But there's always hope *grin*

        Thank you for congratulating me with my 37,5th birthday, you're the first :-D

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        #26.1 - Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:52 AM EST
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