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Zoomclouds is a service that lets you generate a tagcloud from an RSS feed:

Tag clouds are cool, informative, appealing representations about what's happening in your blog, or anywhere else.

With ZoomClouds you can put in a matter of minutes a tag cloud in your site, based on whichever RSS feed you like.

You can define height, width, colours ... the entire look and feel of the tagcloud.

When you're done, you get the code which you then can post on your blog, or website.

As an example I've created three clouds, spanning a 7 day period. One for my column, one for the main page of Newsvine, but just the Wire part, and one for the main page of Newsvine, the Vine part. You can see the result at your right.

When you click a tag, you get taken to a page with the most recent articles / seeds mentioning that specific word.

If you want to have a look for yourself, without immediately signing up, you can do so at the sample page for Newsvine - Irma.

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Who's leading the conversation?
This visualization below allows you to see the impact that each user has on the current conversation. The top row contains the group of users who have had the most impact, the 2nd row the group of users who have had the 2nd most impact (et cetera). Users with similar impact are grouped together, and the average score of the group is shown to the left of the group. The author of the article is also shown on the left, in their corresponding group. Each user's score is based on the number of comments the user has made plus the number of votes their comments have received. The scores are calculated relative one another, so while their absolute value is not particularly important, their relative difference does indicate a larger difference in impact on the conversation.
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{"commentId":252029,"authorDomain":"aine"}

Newsvine ought to integrate something like this. You can build tag clouds out of any feed you like, and it's extensible with the API, so it could probably hook into del.icio.us.

What are ZoomClouds main features?

* Powerful content analisys tools

ZoomClouds uses two different powerful content analisys tools. One of them extracts possibly relevant terms. The other not only grabs the most relevant terms but also becomes smarter over time, learning from the terms previously extracted - or rejected. So if your cloud doesn't look too sharp at the beginning, just give it some time.

* Complete visual interface

A complete and very easy to use visual interface will help you design the look of your cloud any way you want without even having to write one single line of code. You can, of course, manually edit the CSS code at will if you want, but usually you won't have to.

With the visual editor you can select how many tags you want in your cloud, the minimum and maximum font sizes, tag colors, border colors and width, hover colors, padding, background colors, whether you want the weight of the tags to appear next to them, draw (or not) a dot between tags...

* Extended visual options

If the visual editor lets you design all the most important visual aspects of your cloud without you having to mess up with CSS code, by using what we call extra commands you can further customize how you want your cloud to look like: sort by weight instead of A-Z, assign random colors, show one tag per line (that is, show a list, not a cloud), word-wrap the tags, etc

* Comprehensive Statistics

See how many clicks your tags are getting by the hour, by day, week, month or year. Get reports to see what tags were clicked the most and from what countries those clicks were made.

* Exclude unwanted tags

For every cloud (or for all of them) you can enter a list of unwanted tags, that is, tags that you simply don't want to see in your tag cloud no matter what.

* Teach ZoomClouds what's really important

Similarly, you can also enter a list of terms that you definitely want in your tag cloud but that ZoomClouds didn't catch. Add them, and ZoomClouds will never miss them again.

* Automatic and manual updates

Automated updates when they're really needed. Other services do somewhat random periodic updates or have a "waiting list". ZoomClouds takes into account when the clouds are being shown, and updates them accordingly. And of course, you can update your cloud any time you want.

* Up to date information

You can see when it was the last time your clouds were updated, and you can update them any time you want.

* Time-sensitive clouds

You decide - not us - whether you want your cloud to reflect what's trendy during just the last 24 hours, or the last 3 days, 7 days, one month, and so on.

* Save your cloud designs

You can save different cloud designs and apply them to whichever cloud you have at any time.

* Share cloud designs

You can share your cloud designs (if you want) so other users can take a look at your cloud designs and perhaps even use them, and viceversa: you can look at other people's cloud designs and use them if you like.

* Extend the posibilities with the ZoomClouds API

Take the results from your cloud - or any cloud - and do with them whatever you want: link the tags in your cloud with tags in Flickr and build a mosaic of Flickr pictures based in your tags. Or build a Flash app that does the unthinkable with the tags in your cloud, etc.

Good find, Irma. :)

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  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:06 PM EDT
{"commentId":252493,"authorDomain":"irma"}

I agree a genuine tag cloud would be interesting to have, it would fit very well on that http://irma.newsvine.com/?more=TagCloud page. Plenty of space next to that list.

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#1.1 - Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:03 PM EDT
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{"commentId":252053,"authorDomain":"irma"}

I've got a Newsvine page on my blog where I have used the clouds mentioned above, along with the latest articles / seeds I posted, powered by yet another service, rss to javascript. On my homepage (which I admit could be faster loading) I fetch the (linked) titles to things posted to my column, or the Africa location, using Carp.

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Reply#2 - Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:15 PM EDT
{"commentId":253475,"authorDomain":"ISPY"}

OOoo Its pretty :)

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#2.1 - Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:50 PM EDT
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{"commentId":252214,"authorDomain":"spring"}

Sweet!

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Reply#3 - Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:55 PM EDT
{"commentId":252227,"authorDomain":"rappo"}

Very nice! Cool service, thanks for sharing.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:08 PM EDT
{"commentId":252479,"authorDomain":"afonso"}

Cool, created one. :P

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Reply#5 - Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:36 PM EDT
{"commentId":252495,"authorDomain":"irma"}

Where did you post it?

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#5.1 - Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:04 PM EDT
{"commentId":252818,"authorDomain":"afonso"}

here, Irma:
http://zoomclouds.egrupos.net/Newsvine_Afonso/viewCloud/4949
but, not a very interesting one. For the moment it seems that I only seed news about Portugal. I wonder why...:)

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#5.2 - Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:02 AM EDT
{"commentId":252824,"authorDomain":"afonso"}

Sorry, the right link is this one:
http://zoomclouds.egrupos.net/cloud/NV_Afonso

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#5.3 - Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:14 AM EDT
{"commentId":252825,"authorDomain":"irma"}

Hehe, I was wondering about your first link. It didn't work, but when I changed it to the right structure it did. Except then a minute later it disappeared. Seems you changed the name of your cloud, right?

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#5.4 - Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:19 AM EDT
{"commentId":253235,"authorDomain":"rutty"}

Afonso? There's a name I recognise! Nice to see you here ;)

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#5.5 - Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:42 AM EDT
{"commentId":253311,"authorDomain":"afonso"}

Hi David! Long time, hey? :)

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#5.6 - Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:23 PM EDT
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{"commentId":252826,"authorDomain":"afonso"}

yep, to a shorter one. :D

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  • 2 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:24 AM EDT
{"commentId":254333,"authorDomain":"rutty"}

I quite like it. I'm not entirely sure how much I'd use it though.

I created one for my blog and put it HERE. I've already got enough Javascript stuff running on there so I'm a bit dubious about putting even more in. Still, it's a nice little toy and it might be better to use that tag cloud than the Movable Type widget.

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  • 1 vote
Reply#7 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:51 AM EDT
{"commentId":254366,"authorDomain":"irma"}

I commented on your site, and used you as a guinea pig again. It was the first comment I now track in Cocomment, which one of the devs of Newsvine promised to look into. If you want to see how it works, have a look at the sidebar of my blog.

{"commentId":254366,"threadId":"37079","contentId":"325954","authorDomain":"irma"}
  • 2 votes
#7.1 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:23 AM EDT
{"commentId":254376,"authorDomain":"rutty"}

That's bizzarre - I signed up for that this week too! It looks very promising, although it does make it possible for people to stalk you all over the internet ;)

{"commentId":254376,"threadId":"37079","contentId":"325954","authorDomain":"rutty"}
  • 1 vote
#7.2 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:44 AM EDT
{"commentId":254416,"authorDomain":"irma"}

I signed up quite a long time ago, I just hadn't started using it yet *grin*

I noticed my second comment on your blog didn't get tracked. It's because I used Internet Explorer while commenting that second time (don't ask) and as your blog isn't Cocomment Integrated, it didn't pick it up.

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  • 2 votes
#7.3 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:43 AM EDT
{"commentId":254422,"authorDomain":"aine"}

I think it's kind of strange that even with the Cocomment extension installed, we don't see the options on the comment form here, even without the javascript present, like you can at other commenting locations.

{"commentId":254422,"threadId":"37079","contentId":"325954","authorDomain":"aine"}
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#7.4 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:46 AM EDT
{"commentId":254425,"authorDomain":"irma"}

It's because Newsvine isn't supported just yet. When you hit the cocomment button from you Firefox extension in your tool bar, it appears. This is actually a test comment, testing just that :-)

{"commentId":254425,"threadId":"37079","contentId":"325954","authorDomain":"irma"}
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#7.5 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:49 AM EDT
{"commentId":254429,"authorDomain":"irma"}

Mmmm ... which didn't work. While posting this, trying again by the way.

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#7.6 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:50 AM EDT
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{"commentId":254437,"authorDomain":"irma"}

Picked some other options now, I got the Cocomment message it started tracking it. Now I just can't seem to be able to assign tags to it. Oh well, let's try this.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:55 AM EDT
{"commentId":254441,"authorDomain":"irma"}

Now it's showing up on my Cocomments page, but it says zero comments.

{"commentId":254441,"threadId":"37079","contentId":"325954","authorDomain":"irma"}
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#8.1 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:56 AM EDT
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{"commentId":254443,"authorDomain":"aine"}

Testing Cocomment via the browser button.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#9 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:57 AM EDT
{"commentId":254448,"authorDomain":"irma"}

Guess it didn't work.

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  • 3 votes
#9.1 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:59 AM EDT
{"commentId":254459,"authorDomain":"irma"}

I've now removed part of the url, in the popup box one gets when clicking the pink exclamation mark. It now points to this page, and not to a comment box or anything. Let's see.

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#9.2 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:05 AM EDT
{"commentId":254460,"authorDomain":"aine"}

Trying again.

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#9.3 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:06 AM EDT
{"commentId":254466,"authorDomain":"irma"}

The Cocomment page for this reports 6 articles, and Aine and me being frequent users. Guess something is not quite right *grin*

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#9.4 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:09 AM EDT
{"commentId":254745,"authorDomain":"rutty"}

The bookmarklet seems to work ok for here - we'll see if performance improves over time.

coComment is a very interesting concept though

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  • 2 votes
#9.5 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:45 AM EDT
{"commentId":254758,"authorDomain":"irma"}

It doesn't seem to be working for me on your blog either. Will try one last time over here, but using the bookmarklet instead of the extension. Doubt it will work, as I get a popup for just a fraction of a second, and nothing more.

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#9.6 - Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:50 AM EDT
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{"commentId":254555,"authorDomain":"cocotest"}

Testing also cocomment

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